BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

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Pchristy
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

Post by Pchristy »

I completed the consultation as soon as I became aware of it. One of the points I made was that the Park Authorities have no control over the airspace above the park - anymore than I have control of the airspace over my house. That is the province of the CAA.

I see that the BMFA have picked up on this point, so hopefully it will wake them up to the fact that they are exceeding their authority.

They can, of course, stop you taking off (or launching) from their land, but they cannot control what overflies it.

Since they are demonstrably seeking to exceed their authority, hopefully it will prompt those who actually control the airspace to chip in. It might even prompt closer scrutiny of the rest of their regulations, if we are lucky!

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Spike S
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

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Somewhere in their mandate they state "... no recreational activity should have preference over any other ...". So if flying is terminated then so should walking !
Let's hope that rational common sense prevails.
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wookman
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

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Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to fill in the DNPA survey.

The survey will close on 1st November, so that leaves this weekend as the last opportunity to contribute.

Can anybody who hasn't done the survey PLEASE take 10 minutes out of your weekend to fill it in. Even if you have never flown on Dartmoor or have any any intention of ever doing so PLEASE fill in the survey. If this is allowed to happen to Dartmoor model glider pilots, how long will it be before it happens to you?

Here is the link to get you started https://www.dartmoor.gov.uk/about-us/wh ... nsultation

Please refer to the opening post for the context of the current situation.
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Rogall
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

Post by Rogall »

Just filled in the survey stressing the social, recreational and educational benefits of model planes as a hobby. Also pointing out the Park have no authority over airspace so that amendment is moot.
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bluejets
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

Post by bluejets »

Rogall wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 11:54 Also pointing out the Park have no authority over airspace so that amendment is moot.
Roger
Similar applies over here in Aus down in Noosa.

Council there have no objection to flying over their land BUT since one cannot fly "out of normal eyesight" then it makes no difference.
One is not allowed to take off or land in their specified area.
wookman
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Re: BAN on model gliding on Dartmoor

Post by wookman »

Update on the situation with repsect to the revision of the Dartmoor national park authority bylaws.

DNPA have recently released the following:



Work continues on review of Dartmoor's byelaws


Dartmoor National Park Authority has today provided a progress update on work to update Dartmoor’s byelaws.

On 3 September 2021 a report was taken to Authority seeking approval to launch a review of the current byelaws. At that meeting, Members approved the proposals, including a formal consultation with the public and stakeholders.

The six-week consultation, which closed in November 2021, attracted nearly 4,000 responses, which a team of National Park Officers have been carefully analysing.

Dr Kevin Bishop, Chief Executive of Dartmoor National Park Authority, said: “We’re committed to ensuring Dartmoor has an updated set of byelaws which are fit for purpose, seek a consistent approach where appropriate to do so, and help protect the National Park in years to come.

“We appreciate that people will want to know what’s going on and that’s why we felt it was important to provide this review update. We’re carefully and methodically working through all of the responses received. This is time well spent and is critical to the decision-making process and will continue into February.

“Further work will then be informed by impact and sustainability assessments, evidence and legal advice. In view of this, we’re not yet in a position to schedule a firm date for when proposals will go to Authority. We hope it will be this summer, but it is still too soon to know whether that is possible.

“However, we will continue to keep people updated as we go. While the review remains in progress, it’s important that everyone continues to respect the current byelaws. In doing so, you’re helping to ‘leave no trace, give nature space’ and are protecting this special landscape for everyone to enjoy.”



So for the time being we carry on as before. The operation of unpowered model aircraft is permitted within the National Park. The operation of powered model aircraft or drones generally remains prohibited.
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